In that time, it also becomes clear that Andrews fate is in danger of also becoming his sons. MORRISON: Andrew was the only child of software engineer David Bagby and his wife, Kate, a nurse practitioner. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. us around. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. They are warm. After the pregnancy came to light, the film became a way to introduce Zachary to his father. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. Based on the title alone, it sounds like one of those saccharine documentaries that only the filmmaker and the subject would ever really care about. Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. Kuenne is able to capture the true nature of love and dedication in a way I have never seen. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible). Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. You know? KATE: I knew exactly what my son looked at before he died. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. They told us that they'd found the body. The full hour will not be available online. The film ends with the Bagbys and their relatives, friends, and colleagues reflecting on the father and son, as well as the . David and Kate Bagby channeled their grief & anguish into changing some Canadian laws. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. Mommy misses you. Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. With that kind of goodness, anything is possible. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. On Aug. 18, 2003, while awaiting extradition to the U.S. on a charge of murdering Andrew, Turner jumped into the waters of Conception Bay South with her 13-month-old son strapped to her in a murder-suicide. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. Except this story is worse. Shirley Turner, awaiting, extradition for murder, was out of prison on bail. Right? I mean, the best man is really the groom. She has to veer away from the image and instead see him as a living being. You take it with you, but you move on, said David. I'm tired of this. -, "This documentary will rip out your heart and leave you in the snow without a sweater. His father says, I kissed him and held him. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. I would really like for you and Kate. Click HERE for ticket information. to reconsider getting some help with that. If it looks like she's likely to go back, how is she going to behave? This is a huge step forward in the mission Dear Zachary was created to accomplish. substance to it. Andrew's parents say he tried, frequently, to ease out of the relationship altogether, but Shirley wouldn't buy it. Dear Zachary was a hit at Slamdance! Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories: Right, right. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. I had lovely family. October 22, 2009: A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. MORRISON: Was it reasonable for the court to trust her? HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. He had been shot five times and the No. We had to pack up Zachary, Mr. BAGBY: We just climbed right back upstairs and went to bed and melted. Why don't you just take him?'. MORRISON: Was she taunting them, they wondered? kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. Then, upon. Skewed imagery. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. Newfoundland to meet the now 11-month-old little boy. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. He was the whole world to them. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. We were in the way, I guess, of her trying to go to school. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. Couldn't be her. And you just bought the gun, right? Sometimes, if you are paying attentionclose attentionyou can see it coming, even if only barely. Specific in nature? Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. He couldve introduced his friends death any way he wanted, and he went with this, with a kid who can barely pronounce the word killed asking why one of daddys friends has ended up that way. And I saw that night her malignancy. It had happened almost surely the last, night they were together, and DNA tests would later prove that Andrew was, (Supreme Court exterior; court in progress; house exterior; Shirley and Shears. RELATED:California filmmaker remasters documentary on the lives and murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner. They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. See details above! But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. Cpl. IE 11 is not supported. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. They're like, `What do you mean?' Its good to see him again, hear his voice, he said of the images of Andrew. sixteen years have passed but for the bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yeah. USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. Are you having a good day with grandmom and. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. The legal system helped her kill Zachary. (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. -Managed leading Egyptian companies' accounts with the firm, including in the oil and gas, financial, consumer goods, real estate and automotive sectors. June 25, 2008: I had this overwhelming feeling. -Drafted and finalized press releases, articles, annual reports, websites, earnings releases and investor . She always spent time with him, and seemed to me like she was, MORRISON: Still grieving over the loss of their only son, David, and Kate Bagby had forsaken their lives in California and moved to, Newfoundland, not just to make sure justice was being served, but also to be, (Kate; David; Newfoundland; Supreme Court building; photo of Zachary), KATHERINE: There's this wonderful feeling, `I'm going to see part of Andrew. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. So I gave her the. You will cry. Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. August 5, 2008: In the end, she died, but love did not. An autopsy report would show that an anti-anxiety drug, prescribed by the very psychiatrist who put up Shirley's bail money had been, mixed into Zachary's formula. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. Dear Zachary has been acquired for theatrical release and DVD distribution by the newly formed Oscilloscope Pictures, and will be released in New York on October 31st, and in Los Angeles and Chicago on November 7th. KATE: You were always afraid that she was going to find something. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. I am a young director, producer, stage manager, communicator, and creative organizer for theatre and multimedia artistic endeavors. I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. Bagby came from Sunnyvale, California, and was the son of Kathleen Daphne Bagby ( ne Barnard), a registered nurse and midwife from Chatham, England, United Kingdom; and David Franklin Bagby, an American former United States Navy serviceman and computer engineer. Memorial University Medical School. If. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. Dear Zachary is as devastating as it is because it unravels the way bad things unravel in real life. David and Kate Bagby moved to St. John's. They forged a relationship with the woman they believed killed their son so they could see Zachary, their only grandchild. They raised a wonderful, Unidentified Man #26: Thanks for bringing such a wonderful person. (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. The night was. David and Kate Bagby must have been saints to have had to tolerate personal dealings with their only child's murderess,and basically have to groval to her to even see their precious only-ever grandchild.Yet,they did whatever they could for the sake of Zachary.Most people (myself included) would have made away with Shirley Turner the first chance Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. I couldn't see the point anymore. MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. There were moments when something happened that had my heart beating so fast I became lightheaded and had to refocus myself. helped convince me that she would not hurt Zachary. MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! (Shirley in court; Supreme Court of Newfoundland sign), Mr. BAGBY: And then they started slogging through the courts with one issue, MORRISON: In the meantime, Andrew's parents made a momentous. get in there, if that's what she demanded. KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' MORRISON: But as Kurt made his way around the globe, his tribute materialized into something far bigger, and much darker, than anyone could have imagined. There won't be any question about whether she can hurt, MORRISON: Coming up, as David Bagby wrestles with these terrible. This is without a doubt one of the most profound, touching and moving films I have ever watched." Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. MORRISON: After you found out about Andrew's death, the impulse just ended. For the Bagbys, shock might have, (Photo of David and Zachary; photo of Kate and Zachary; Shirley being escorted, from court; court documents; court exterior; court documents; Kate and David), KATE: I'd sat in the back of the room while Judge Green said to her, `I'm so, sorry, Dr. Turner, your life is on hold, and I know the law is slow.' And the comfort they personify can be found in the fact that even in the face of Shirley Jane Turner, they not only continue, they remain good while continuing. The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. Mr. BAGBY: What are you going to say that will MORRISON: And find something she did, going so far as telling, them that they had some anger issues which needed to be addressed by a, (Photo of Shirley; photo of Kate and David), Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) There has been, I guess, a lot of, uncomfortable feeling on both our parts. See rank. I'm absolutely sure. Purchase the album on: Amazon (Physical CD) iTunes Amazon MP3, DAVID BAGBY'S "DANCE WITH THE DEVIL" RETURNS TO PAPERBACK AND E-BOOK, After four years of being out of print, David Bagby's book "Dance with the Devil" (Andrew Bagby's father's powerful memoir of the events depicted in "Dear Zachary") is finally available in paperback and e-book.