3rd year $25.5 mm, and The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. The 2029 option comes with a $5MM buyout, which is factored into the guaranteed portion of the contract. @Pads Fans Him being on the roster all year actually means he WONT be a Super Two. So basically they guaranteed his arbitration scale in exchange for an extra year, with an option for another year for more money. Position players tend to be better values when extensions are considered, especially in terms of injury risk. The next time you attempt to impersonate a teacher, use of correct grammar and word definition might lessen your chance of being subjected to ridicule and the embarrassing eyerolls from those subjected to your pompous bloviations. . Fried wasnt this good out of the gate. Hes going to get over paid by somebody. ". Spencer Strider undoubtedly earns a substantial sum of money from his sole career in baseball. They paid $75 million for $102 million worth of his services based on your numbers. Not the other way around. The defending World Series champions will start the NLDS at Truist Park in Atlanta. For instance, John Blitzer tried saying Soto was worth almost $200M in excess value for 2.5 seasons, while still paying him $60M in salary. $140 per post at $7/CPM. View a free mock draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 4 teams in a STD format. Swanson put up a 95 OPS+ and a 14.5 bWAR in his 7 seasons in the majors. He would have gone there if the contract offer was higher. Strider just had one of the best seasons for a rookie starter in the arbitration era. A bonus is a bonus. Seems like a good deal for both sides. the Commanders released Wentz in a cost-cutting measure that will save Washington $26.17 million against the 2023 salary cap. While I think the Strider extension is a good gamble on an excellent young arm, youre right that any pitcher can turn into a pumpkin due to poor health or performance. Shane Spencer didnt have elite closer K numbers as a starting pitcher. The 21-year old made the transition from the bullpen to the starting rotation. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. OR they could extend him now for what amounts to 7/87. Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. He is going to see a huge raise to around $25 million this offseason. Hell be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to $20MM in 2026 and $22MM in 2027 and 2028. No owner is changing that. Matt Harvey was better at this stage of his career. Swanson only played 38 games in his debut season in 2016. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. The idea that getting only modest performance for $20m in the last 3 years of the deal will hurt the Braves much at all, though, doesnt follow. If we remove his first-full season clunker in 2017 and fold in 2022, hes still only at a league-average 100. I watched my home team in my home market on it myself without paying a dime or being blacked out. Great point about Matt Harvey and didnt he have an arm injury? Meanwhile, those games arent even broadcast on local cable, since you again just have to watch on Apple TV instead. Outside revenue sources will be adjusted when available after the regular season. He divides his timing between the four MLB teams, but one thing is certain. Most of the professional commentators (fwiw) picked the Braves on the basis that the Mets had yet to unthrone the kings. Hes been a great pitcher so far, but he still really only has two pitches. Thats 65m, plus his first 3 years. Union before player, always. 2024: minimum The Braves and Swanson have publicly expressed mutual interest in a new contract, but getting something done would likely send the Braves soaring over the $200MM mark in terms of their bottom-line payroll while also pushing them into the general vicinity of the first luxury tax threshold for the first time ever. If they are playing in New York, they ask the team to pay their apartment rent or to finance the home they live in, they get extra money to offset the taxes. Besides, they could just as easily lock up those years of free agency at a somewhat higher but much less risky price by just waiting a year or two to make sure hes for real. He has recorded 10 or more strikeouts in a game six times this season, including twice this month -- striking out 16 against the Colorado Rockies on Sept. 1, and 10 in his most recent start Sunday against the Phillies. Half these contracts wont work out. Ambioris Tavarez, SS 11. 22,552nd in major league history) Drafting and developing pitchers is a crap shoot no doubt and Atlanta has had their failures along the way. 2025: $9-10M Worst case scenario is he becomes Matt Harvey. Strider will make $4 million by 2025, with $1 million going to each of the next two seasons. The average Plug and Play Tech Center salary ranges from approximately $53,527 per year for an Intern to $304,574 per year for a Director. Site occasionally posts comments multiple times. These guys are gamers. 3.04 ERA 8.7 K/9. His arbitration would have been in line with the highest ever. Spencer Strider's net worth $1 million. Since 2019, Swanson 11.2 WAR. He had a 5-2 record with a 4.71 ERA, allowing 53 hits, 38 walks, and 89 strikeouts. Yes, they get one or two free agent years in exchange, but thats not enough to make up for those heavily expensive arb years in the deal. Since Strider got a full year already based on service time it has no bearing here. This deal will be the one people talk about for 10-20 years as the contract that forced bidding wars for starting pitchers. Thats not the point Banjo Billy, If hes not willing to extend again in a year, well awww shucks! Most rookies dont end up becoming Aaron Judge BTW. Please logout and login again. This was risky to me as well. Riley is a good deal. I guess writers should just pick the Braves for ten years because they won a World Series with a 88 win season. " . Atlanta enters Saturday having lost three straight and is 2 games back of the New York Mets for first place in the NL East. hflew: This is the first pitcher (out of the 6 players) theyve signed to an extension. However, he already has slightly more than a full year of service time. Short and skinnier pitchers dont hold up well, as a general rule. If Swanson signs a $110-115MM extension, hes probably leaving at least $40MM on the table. Must be a great place to play if they can get all these young guys to sign for long term. Tyler Wells gets his first start of the spring against Spencer Strider. The game will be on WBAL/98 Rock with Geoff Arnold and Ben McDonald. Maybe MLB realizes that they werent actually racist. The Apple games are exclusives and are blacked out to anyone subscribing to MLB.tv (or regional cable: Bally, in the Braves case) further diluting the market. Julio Rodriguez still gets money for finishing 2nd in the HR Derby, gets money for being an All-Star, more money for being the Rookie of the Year, more money for probably winning a Silver Slugger, and then more money based on how much of the total rookie WAR was made up of his nearly 5.5 to 6 WAR season (they have their own calculator for WAR that is not exactly like fWAR or bWAR). The risks are present, but the reward is fantastic, not to mention that it gives you the inside track in a few years to talk a further extension. And because they extended him it wont matter even if they DO send him down. Id hate to be him if he becomes human in Atlanta over the next 6 years. Many observers have compared Strider's pitching style to Houston Astros ace Justin Verlander. Braves fans are setup extremely well. Really mature young man. The Giants & Cubbies will follow and up the Goliaths to 5. Essentially they trade the risk that he gets hurt and produces nothing in one or more years for the free first free agent year, and the discounted second free agent year assuming hes healthy. We will gladly take him, throw in 20 million of his salary as well since you feel as though youve overpaid for him? Not a smart bet. 2nd year $14.75 mm, Meanwhile Cohen will spend even more and have a $400 mil opening day payroll lol. Join our linker program. Theyre in 10000x better position than anyone in that division to be a long term competitor, for sure. Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. He hasnt performed at even close to their level. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! Strider was added to the Atlanta active roster on October 1, 2021, and made his main league debut with one inning of relief against the New York Mets. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. If he continues to play as h did in his rookie season, he would absolutely be at the top of the scale. Thats why you compare first full season and Harvey was a lot better. Was hoping this thread would continue without trolls insulting one another instead of adding actual substance to their argument. Amateur career [ edit] Theres risk for sure, but if AA is doing it (hes been notoriously risk-aversive since arriving) Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. Now lets say you call Ticketmaster and they tell you that you will get one of the four tickets, but you dont know which one until you get to the ball game. I used Harvey as a buyer beware caution notice. Name those Braves fans who felt that way. Ozzie Albies is controllable through the '27 season. The other 5 of all these extensions are postion players at different ages and stages in their careers. $1MM for each of the 23 and 24 season is a bargain. I imagine that will be Soto and Boras target, yeah. Believe hes expressed the desire to stay on 2B (probably because of his arm strength being gone.) But if we are anywhere near the same cutoff after next season that we were after 2021, Strider will miss Super 2 status by 110 days roughly or almost 4 months of being on the roster. They were wrong, clearly. You are also assuming he doesnt fall off a cliff statistically like Trevor Rogers this year where he went from a 2.64 ERA to 5.47 ERA or for the analytical types he went from a 2.55 FIP (2021) to 4.36 FIP (2022). Kris Bryant and Cody Bellinger were Super Twos, for instance, being arb eligible four times as opposed to the usual three. The Braves said Tuesday they would push back Strider's next start in the hopes of avoiding a trip to the IL. Everything can be considered in arbitration. Max was gassed in the NLCS last year. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. His service time was at 2 years and 148 days when he qualified for a difference of 145 days of service when a full season is 172 days. Being healthy doesnt make you as good. He made his MLB debut in 2021. They will have their hands full if they get past the Phillies in the NLDS. PinkFloyed is also excellent. The Clemson product cracked the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022, initially working multi-inning stints out of the bullpen before ascending to the starting staff, where he not only found success but emerged as a bona fide front-of-the-rotation arm. Well strider pitched last year too. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. For reference, Kris Bryant was a lock to be a Super Two because he finished 2017 with 2 years and 171 days of service time. Harris, Strider, Riley, Ronald Acua Jr. and Olson are all signed through at least the 2028 season. Theyve got Fried under control through 2024. Braves have got it going on. Smith-Shawver, RHP 6. Enjoy the Braves playoff run while you whimper about what could have been for your Mutts. Spencer Strider made last year. SPENCER AGUIAR. early opt out year, incentives based on GG, SS, ASG, MVP votes. Sure, but yeah, lets compare his hit totals today which rewards the Rob Deers of the world versus Ty Cobbs and George Sislers era where whole teams hit 15-25 homeruns in a season. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. Theyve been doing well to develop revenue streams and having them as serious generators by the time the current contract is up, and when a new one is signed, they should be up there in annual budgets (and profitability). No, the alternative is to wait an extra year or two before extending him and then not overpaying for his arb years if/when you do still decide to extend him. Other then that what aging crap did we sign? Spencer Strider's Raw Stuff Is As Good As Any MLB Starting Pitcher. Bauer was coming off a season with a 4.19 ERA and had a 4.36 ERA in parts of 6 MLB seasons when he first hit arbitration. The only IF is whether hell stay healthy and productive enough to earn the money. Nothing disingenuous about that. So he still would not have been a Super Two. Spencer Schwellenbach, RHP 10. (Strider is currently at 1.003 years.) The Albies deal is a massive savings, Acuna nearly as much. In your case, the look that you should recognize for all the times you see it with that kind of personality is disgust followed by derisive laughter. His previously strained left oblique muscle was fine as he threw off the mound on Sunday and on flat ground on Monday. You are making a lot of wild assumptions. Well put DMC. Jealousys an ugly emotion. Spencer frequently posts images of them hanging around and having the time of their lives. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Thats worrisome! Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. That mark was quickly smashed by Wander Franco (11 years, $182MM) and further surpassed this summer by Julio Rodriguez (12 years, $210MM). Baez/Story trending down, Swanson up. I see little comparison between Strider and Harvey. Clemson's top freshman in 2018, but missed 2019 due to injury returned in 2020 as a weekend starter had one of the hardest fastballs on the team was both a long reliever and starter three-time ACC Academic Honor Roll member in 63.0 innings pitched over 26 appearances (10 starts) and two active seasons, he had a 5-2 record . The reason is pitchers are volatile. Players dont decide when they will be traded unless they have a no trade clause. Full-year historical Major League statistics provided by Pete Palmer and Gary Gillette of Hidden Game Sports. Look what Gerrit Cole was able to get. Looking more immediately down the line, the Braves already have $153MM on next years payroll and nearly $110MM on the 2024 payroll. Cole has stated since he was in UCLA that he was a Yankee fan and wanted to be in pinstripes when he grew up, he was even drafted by the Yankees and chose college ball, but said it was a tough choice and hoped hed end up there eventually. Lets say $30 mil for year 3. If you dont catch it and cancel the extra comments before the edit button expires, it looks like youve repeated the same post. 7 Cubs pitchers combine for no-hitter vs Machado, Padres, Top moments from Brady, Manning, Jordan and other athletes hosting 'Saturday Night Live', Fantasy baseball rankings, projections, strategy and cheat sheets, Rangers' Leclerc to miss WBC with neck injury, Rockies' Rodgers may need surgery, '23 at risk, Rojas to withdraw from WBC, stay with Dodgers, Braves' Strider (oblique) to have start skipped. He might not be worth what hes asking. So what? Olson can go either way, I think. They have his first two free-agent years one locked in and the other as a club option. Browse our online application for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, EPL, or MLS player contracts, salaries, transactions, and more. He could easily see $17m, 2om after this down year, then 28m. Lengthy extensions to position players I get. Theres talk ones coming. probably not. Do they really think someone is going to go subscribe to Apple TV (one of The Worst of the streamers) just to watch? Because Strider spent the whole season in the majors anyway it has no effect on him. Or theyre being proactive to keep future payroll in check and balanced out so they dont get caught with uncertain arbitration costs in the future. Love the hugely inaccurate arb numbers by posters on here. Spencer Strider is currently the starting pitcher position for the Atlanta Braves in Major League Baseball, the senior baseball league of the United States. Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a unique . Product executive enabling intelligent decisions through enriching and enhancing data and delivering it in awesome products. I disagree with this because the Mets basically played .600 most of the season. Same is true for Strider, this deal doesnt include or exclude those pre-arb bonuses. His love of the New York night life and illegal substances didnt help his career along either. The specific cutoff date varies on a year-to-year basis. "My goal is always to outperform any expectations," Strider said. Striders is fine assuming he doesnt turn into what every Atlanta farm system pitcher turns into, which is garbage in 3 years. The way they draft and are able to get their players so sign long term for under market value is second to none. LOL Strider had it Right all along. Hes allergic to walks. It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. Had the Yankees given Miguel Andujar the same treatment after the 2018 season, we would be having a completely different discussion. That is a bad assumption. Only one thing is certain: his grandmother is a huge Cleveland Indians fan. Average MLB salary rose to record $4.22M in . You know how you can tell you are wrong? You think that contract for Strider isnt a slap in the face to guys in that clubhouse? I dont always disagree w/you. He is definitely a Super Two candidate. Olson, Riley, Harris, and Strider are all reasonable balances between risk and reward for both the players and the team.
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