I have no agenda. This image has been modified. The cows are fenced in, but when they get out they arent running away. Even when I grew then myself to prove it isnt evil pesticides. I just want to share my perspective as a dairy farmer. It's actually one of the most regulated and tested foods in the grocery store. What??? My health has not changed one tiny bit from drinking milk, to not drinking milk. We only treat the animals when they are sick not when they are healthy. If we farmed elephants for example, for meat and milk, there would be millions of them, right? even if its proven to have detrimental effects on health, but since its more important to keep on sustaining fat men in suits who dont give a rats behind about health issues, we keep on contributing to the death and slavery of millions of cows. Apart from his illness not being set off my the lactose, he has not changes at all, he went through a period of no milk, now he uses lacto free products and feels good. But some cows can get a very severe case, and the infection can get out of control. A healthy cow with no underlying infection will have a low somatic cell count (SCC). Why not get it straight from the source? When you are sick you consult your doctor, when you need legal help you consult your lawyer, when you want to build a house, you consult an architect so why should it be any different when you want to know about your food. Unfortunately there are people who dont want you to drink milk. Dairies use Alternatives to Antibiotics to keep Cows Healthy, https://www.dairymoos.com/ants-milk-aphids/, http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/14-cattle-trucks-burned-in-arson-at-Harris-Ranch-2455411.php, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winograd/peta-kills-puppies-kittens_b_2979220.html, article on fat to learn about the nutrition misconceptions, http://nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/08/how-much-pus-is-there-in-milk/, https://www.dairymoos.com/debunked-nutritionfacts-org-puss-in-milk/, https://www.dairymoos.com/what-is-somatic-cell-count/, Interesting Facts about California Agriculture, Lactose Intolerance not only Genetic but Cultural. Why would two out of the three ingredients for pus pass through, but not the thirdwhich just happens to be the one that grosses consumers out the most? Is mastitis rampant in the dairy industry? You also eat ligaments, red blood cells, arteries, ect. . And only babies of the mother, not other species! Your PETA claim is silly and bogus as they are in no way the official standard bearer of animal rights; in fact many animal rights folks as you like to call em, are opposed to PETA. Actually China traditionally didnt consume milk and they were healthy and lived long. blue pus pus with a bluish tint, seen in certain suppurative infections, the color occurring as a result of the presence of an antibiotic pigment (pyocyanin) produced by Pseudomonas aeruginosa. When detected, these cows are separated from the main herd and sent to the hospital pen so they can get the help they need. Somatic cells are not puss. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy. Hello. After treatment, most cows experience a prompt and speedy recovery. The reality is that cows that are given the best care are the most profitable. just so we can keep on drinking pus. Its actually illegal for dairies to sell milk with antibiotics. Howard Lyman, a 4th generation cattle rancher, thought he treated his animals well, then got ill and became vegan and spoke out against his industry for what it did. Good luck my friend! If there were any credible health risks involved, we would definatly know about them. . Subtracting the 200,000 that could be present in nonmastitic milk and subtracting the non-inflammatory fraction (10%) leaves us with 21,600 neutrophils per ml, and multiplying that by the volume of milk in a cup (237ml) comes out to be about 5 million neutrophils per cup. Be open minded enough to consider that your facts may not actually be facts. The author writes "High SCCs may mean the cow has an infection - most likely mastitis. It is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT that the hormones put in cows make ALL of them sick HENCE WHY ANTIBIOTICS ARE USED in 100% of them. What happens to all those babies who never get mothers milk?? Veal is not right, and has nearly been eliminated in the US for good reason. Thanks for your comment. Watch some videos of dairy cows being abused. That is why it is nonsensical for you to say we dont care, because even if we were greedy and money hungry it would not give us any incentive to mistreat animals. Youre right, like in everything, there are always a few bad apples in the bunch. We also use a tractor to till each bed each day to make sure the bedding is nice and fluffy. Here is an example of the logic you are using. Theres loads of truth, Earthlings, Cowspiracy, Farm to Fridge (great, well-researched documentaries) and real undercover video of dairy operations available on youtube & Netflix. That loss of body condition is a result of the extreme genetic manipulation for unnaturally high milk yields. and I appreciate this article and the facts presented. See my milk facts article. Assuming the excess neutrophils drawn to the infected udder are pus-forming, 5 million divided by 4 million equals little more than a single pus-drop per cup (though I guess that could mean as much as 2 or 3 per tall frosty glass). How is it that you think I can better contribute to their wellbeing other than opposing what you do? If you are looking for answers about dairy, please be critical. So if you want to use the definition of pus, then every breastfed baby is also drinking pus too! Pus is made up of dead white blood cells, dead skin cells, and bacteria, not one type of cell. Those who have an ideological or commercial reason to want us to fear milk are trying to convince us that SCC and pus are interchangeable terms. Is consuming these things gross,it just depends on how you want to spin things. The same applies with dairy cows; if they arent healthy they arent producing as much milk as they could be. You think that because someone else doesnt pay for YOUR cows retirement, a cow that YOU force-bred, that YOU have repeatedly forced pregnancy on with an invasively procedure, that YOU have repeatedly milked as much YOU feel is feasible to do so and that YOU very clearly profit from, it somehow justifies YOU killing the cow after just a fraction of its natural lifespan. However I think dairy farms are unfairly lumped in with poor practices other livestock industries. What do you think pus is if not white blood cells lol. animals and believe they are treated well. Humans are evil. We all know the benefits you enjoy ($$$$$$$) from your mutual relationship with your cows. Milk is such a low grade food and you must understand youre fucking up the planet no? I dont think you can blame milk for these health problems. The subject matter depicted or included via links within the Fact Checking content is provided to the extent necessary for correct understanding of the verification of the information concerned. When a cow is infected, greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. The workers on some of these farms have no feelings or concerns for the cows and I find it disturbing the way cows are brutalized. Mastitis occurs when the white blood cells are released in the cows udder to fight the invading bacteria. Bob, you make my heart happy. Dairy is one of the foods I swear I could feel immediately bringing me back to life after I abandoned veganism due to declining health. You are a fantastic blogger! You can find plenty on just YouTube showing EXACTLY what really goes on in most Dairy farms. Be well! Pick up a back-issue of National Geographic, for goshs sake. Thumbs up to AbbyJ. AFP and its logo are registered trademarks. I drink a lot of milk (gold top 5% fat lovely) about a litre a day. All rights reserved. Better science please Dairy Guy! Genetic testing can show us which bulls have the best propensity to transfer more longevity to their young. But I no longer drink it often in exchange for almond or soy milk because of issues like these. The FDA allows a certain amount of puss in the milk; the equivalent to one eyedropper full per gallon. Oh dear, what horrible people. I was also wondering what the average size is your operation and those of your friends. But its ALSO made from dead or decaying microorganisms. Bob did you even read the link I recommended? Mastitis is actually a disease that afflicts most mammals, including humans. Why would we make our cows sick so we can give 100% of them antibiotics? However, I think something important is being misrepresented. Many scientific studies have shown the numerous deficiencies and autoimmune disorders caused by drinking milk or other dairy products and the benefits of NOT DRINKING THE MAMMARY SECRETIONS OF ANOTHER SPECIES and other than your indignation, you have no facts to back you up. Yes our farm and my friends family farms are all sizes, they range anywhere from 100 to 5,000 cows. The term rape rack is a term created by activists to evoke emotion in you, but its not even a real thing. I dont! If theres no puss in milk then why is there an acceptable limit . Absolutely not. snopes debunks adoption site.pdf: . Abnormal milk from cows is collected into a separate vessel or bucket and discarded. You should test some milk, and let me know your results. "The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000." Dr. G says that according to his calculations, there is 'not much' pus in a glass of milk - he believes it's unlikely the average cup of milk in the United States would contain more than a single drop of pus. As excuse me. i do however think that the life of many dairy cows probably isnt very nice particularly the ones which produce milk at rock bottom prices.. I would love to know what MUTUAL benefits you refer to??? A million cells per spoonful sounds like a lot, but pus is really concentrated. There is no money in being vegan. I look up whats in milk.dead white blood cells.then I look up pus and the definition is dead white blood cells. I see you havent read the comments on some of these topics lol. Pus is made up of dead white blood cells, dead skin cells, and bacteria, not one type of cell. And your point is well-taken about organic milk and not being able to treat mastitis in those cows with anti-biotics. And yes vegans do struggle with malnutrition. I dont understand why you keep saying that its not pus. I bet you that you could make the same claim about people who can afford to buy tuxedos and those who cant. That cow will stay in the herd for years. Thankful for people who dont ignore the truth, regardless of how ugly it is. The rest is simple facts, basic knowledge. There is no hidden benefit in telling people to stop drinking milk. You try to breed the strong bulls to the weak cows to give them the strength they need. pushers: vegans and animal rights extremists (i.e. Leucocytes. Another example: Table salt consists of sodium and chlorine molecules. All vegans are extremists? Maybe the answer is that they cant, not like this anyway. Somatic cell counts greater than a million per teaspoon are abnormal and almost always caused by mastitis. The goal of animal activists is to have animals be free as nature intended and not to be used by humans. Turning dairy cows into milk machines has led to epidemics of so-called production-related diseases, such as lameness and mastitis (udder infections), the two leading causes of dairy cow mortality in the United States. You can read more about it here. So the confusion is comparing somatic cells SSC to pus which it isnt. Wow! Select whichever device. lol when the apocalypse happens, Im glad your belief system will keep you occupied. Why would someone lie? The milk from these cows does not go into the bulk tank, so there is no pus in milk. guaranteed every test will have pus in it. Peralta also stressed that raw milk does contain bacteria, hence the importance of the pasteurization process, which is now applied in the entire world. Lastly, she added that milk does not contain carcinogenic elements.. As a general rule, it would be easier to link people to registered dietitians as they have PhDs and know what they are talking about. Define pus. Where do these rumours begin? Do they A breast infection, also known as mastitis, is an infection that occurs within the tissue of the breast. pus in milk snopes. Ontarios Ministry of Agriculture, Food, and Rural Affairs states that bulk tank counts or herd averages of under 200 000 indicate excellent udder health and counts over 500 000 indicate a definite problem with subclinical mastitis. Most dairies aim to keep their SCC level under 200 000. **A cow enjoying her dry, comfortable bedding**, The cows also have the luxury of taking a shower before every milking. Pus is not the correct term its a slang for drum roll please. So theres definitely some encouragement to do the best jobs possible. Its really like a protective shield that is used to fight off any potential infection from happening. Another common thing in the dairy industry is genetic manipulation which is genetically manipulating the cow to produce more, unnatural amounts of milk. Written By The dairy guy has explained the immune response well. So how much pus is there in a glass of milk? Perhaps you can remind us what the acceptable legal limit for white blood cells (pus) in milk is? (Just as an aside: the somatic cell count averages for our herd over our last threeSCC tests were: 142 000 (Jan 5), 147 000 (Jan 12), 163 000 (Jan 19) ). This excessive metabolic drain overburdens the cows, who are considered productive for only two years and are slaughtered for hamburger when their profitability drops, typically around their fourth birthday, a small fraction of their natural lifespan. As in: how he makes it through his life. If you do respond, thank you for your time! An average monthly herd somatic cell count under 250 000 somatic cells per mL is also eligible for a quality bonus paid to the farmer. But the C.D.C. Take care. Im very glad this, article cleared things up. You seem like a decent guy who works hard to take care of your cattle which is refreshing. Then congrats, your one of the few that arent feeding children infected cows pus and blood. anyone but her calf. the contamination between the calf and mother its not profitable so you put the baby to work too. Your humor and willingness to engage is beautiful to behold. You eat them trillions of them in meat and nobody is complaining about them. Destroying our planet and abusing and murdering animals just so they can eat a damn chicken wing or burger or piece of bacon etc. Some connections should be made her by intelligent people. All milk - including human breast milk - naturally contains somatic (white) cells, which are . They never roam far away and always willingly go back to their home.. Todays dairy cows endure annual cycles of artificial insemination, pregnancy and birth, and mechanized milking for 10 out of 12 months (including 7 months of their 9-month pregnancies). Big farms DO have blood and puss due to machine milking. 5) do the Bobby calves on your farm get to feed from mum or are they removed immediately and the colostrum bottle fed? After all, who wants to drink milk if it has pus in it! It's a combination of the normal protective fluid in your respiratory passages and debris related to your infection. All milk, including human milk, naturally contains somatic cells. Cloth upholstery heated and power-adjustable front seats fold-flat third-row seats and Hondas Magic. Then there are the pesticides & antibiotics in the milk. And to say research hasnt indicated milk is unhealthy is false, just because you dont stay up to date on scientific studies doesnt mean they dont exist. Lots of people get a shitty deal in life unfortunately, it aint right but its the way it has been and always will be for the foreseeable future so try not to let it bother you. I urge anyone to purchase organic or nonorganic milk and bring a sample to a laboratory of your choice, and if the test results come back with 0% pus I will personally eat a steak and cheese sandwich gross When mastitis is detected, either via testing or the daily visual inspection of each cows milk before the milkingmachine is attached, the milk from that cow does not enter the supply chain until the infection has cleared. So how much pus is there in a glass of milk? Period! The calves are separated from their mothers, who cry for their taken children until they lose their voice. Im sure there are other people with the same concerns. Ive done my research and the difference between us is that IM NOT TRYING TO SELL ANYTHING. In fact, we care about animal so much that many of us farmers work our whole lives with animals because we enjoy spending time with them. The anti-milk pushers are usually the same as the anti-meat, anti-leather, anti-hunting, anti-honey, etc. Of course you dont want anyone to think badly of milk, if you are a dairy farmer. So it got me thinking surely human milk also have this immune response? Making their lives more comfortable is always the goal and I have yet to meet a vegan who is contributing towards making animals lives better. That means less suffering which is great news for animals! They are animals just like our so call house pets. And white blood cells are pus.. with the added doh is an amazing comment! Milk-secreting tissue and various ducts throughout the mammary gland are damaged due to toxins by the bacteria.