Why do I have to feel like Im a fucking clown all these years?! Finally, Jiang Cheng saw the lights of Lotus Pier. Adaptation Deviation: Wei Wuxian encounters Jiang Cheng under different circumstances from the novel, partly due to him saving Jin Ling from the curse earlier than the original.In this episode he encounters Jiang Cheng right after saving the teen, thanks to Fairy finding him. He is now a Jiang, the most coveted omega of his generation all throughout the kingdom of YunMeng, second to none. And finally, WWX dies in the Burial Mound siege. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Snd Shngshu snd lit. This is what wei wuxian meant when he said a soul that no longer wants to be in this world. Jiang Cheng Most of the fandom seems to be fine with everything I mentioned above and I wondered if I was going crazy lol. When the two begin hand-to-hand combat, Jiang Cheng originally holds the advantage. [20], When Wei Wuxian rescues Wen Ning, Wen Qing, and the rest of the Wen Clan's remnants from the Lanling Jin Clan, killing several of their cultivators in the process, Jiang Cheng initially defends the two Wens who had saved their lives, though he apologizes for Wei Wuxian's actions. He learnt that WWX was set up, imagine that; JC resented for 13-16 years and then suddenly learnt that his senior brother was innocent. They know who he is. Web Series Even finding out the truth about his core didn't really make him be nicer to WWX, tho the drama suggests so. [21], Three days later, Jiang Cheng duels Wei Wuxian. In fury, Jiang Cheng calls Jin Guangyao the "son of a prostitute." WWX thinks if LWJ continues to hold on, they will both fall so he uses that moment to rip his arm out of LWJ's grip. As with any tragic hero, Ning's irreversible mistake is surrendering himself to the Jin Sect in an effort to help Wei Wuxian. [37], After over a hundred junior disciples, including Jin Ling, are kidnapped and taken to the Burial Mounds, Jiang Cheng leads a second siege against the Yiling Patriarch. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I think JC walking away shaking his head was more of a "What a shame/What a waste" type of head shake instead of "There he goes with his tricks/antics again.". More helpful answer: From JC's POV, WWX did a lot to personally betray him: his actions stirred the wrath of the Wen Sect leading to the death of his parents and Sect. The golden core reveal hits him so hard, imo, because it shifts his perspective and forces him to start seeing evens from WWX's eyes, not just his own. Agree that the novel is a little ambiguous. Trauma is not excuse, for refusing to return the debt to people who saved his life, he instead knowingly chooses to lead a siege against them, like if nothing else, honour your sisters sacrifice? I think I also saw it in some fan theories, but I believe it makes a lot of sense JC just basically being mad jealous that his brother would first go to some shit hole and Gusu than to Yunmeng To all of that, WWX doesn't seem to be sorry or wanting to apologise to him and JC is putting all the fault for Jiang sect struggles on WWX. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! He hated those people and felt WWX was siding with his parents murderers. If you look at JC's actions, if he truly hated WWX and wanted to kill him, even before the golden core he could have easily murdered him with Zidian or tortured him if he wanted to, he specifically chose not to because he can't because he loves him, imo. The Author stated that Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian's relationship is just friends, but for us they are more like siblings than friends. [49], Rather than teaming together to hunt Wen Chao, in the Animation, Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji are captured by Wen Chao during a fierce battle of the Sunshot Campaign. But i agree he did not seem to want to live anymore after Jiang Yanli died, overwhelming him with grief. He claims that Jiang Cheng still does not understand their clan motto, and Yu Ziyuan interrupts to criticize her husband for again favoring Wei Wuxian. [1], This, along with the fact that Jiang Fengmian holds Wei Wuxian his first night at Lotus Pier, causes Jiang Cheng to initially resent Wei Wuxian. Thanks for your reply and dont apologize, your English is perfect :). I personally don't think that he believed WWX to "not die". She could, with time, especially once JZX takes over but that;s time JC doesn't have. In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. [14], Jiang Cheng believes his life as a cultivator over without his golden core, until Wei Wuxian suggests that his mother's teacher, the legendary Baoshan Sanren, can restore his core. And if he did hear summons over the 13yrs and ignored it why did he answer this time? "[2] However, after Wei Wuxian is brought to live at Lotus Pier around age nine or ten, Jiang Cheng's puppies are sent away due to Wei Wuxian's intense fear of dogs. ive even had a theory of my own from the anime series and such. So romantic(: his last act was saving the one person he had left. It reminds me of Goro Akechi in Persona 5 in terms of the fans who don't like him being reductive of his trauma. [21], However, once Jiang Yanli becomes engaged to Jin Zixuan, Jiang Cheng helps his sister sneak into Yiling to show Wei Wuxian her wedding robes. I havent thought about that before and that kind of perspective is definitely consistent with his character! (Probably the price of destroying the Stygian Amulet). With his spiritual power sealed, Jiang Cheng holds forth Sandu and places himself in front of his nephew. Jiang Cheng is so devastated, he fails to realize what has happened at first, as the enraged Wei Wuxian then pressed the two halves of the Yin Tiger Tally together, commencing battle that becomes a bloodbath. [14], Jiang Cheng becomes the leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and begins recruiting disciples to join his clan and their rebellion against the Qishan Wen Clan. If he thought Wei Wuxian was really still alive somewhere, there'd be no reason to believe his spirit would going around possessing people. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Wang Zhuocheng (adult)Huang Zhenchen (child), snd lit. I like to think that after the ending (post-canon), with many years having gone by, that maybe they could settle the past with time,, leave it there since it can't be changed, and care for each other as the last of their family, but probably not as close siblings that they once were. He begins to capture all cultivators whom he suspects are possessed by the soul of Wei Wuxian, taking them back to Lotus Pier for torture. He reveals that he had been devastated when Wei Wuxian left the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and broken his promise to be the Twin Prides of Yunmeng with him. Am I not supposed to hate you? I dont think hes ever actually hated him, did he want to hate him? His escape, however, is interrupted by the arrival of the Fierce Corpse of Nie Mingjue. From Lan Zhan to his brother. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Then he thinks WWX killed and did lots of wrong things. !, for a long time he did hate wwx, and still wants to hate him, however, 'He shouldve been able to loathe Wei WuXian without a care. What did Wen Chao do to Wei Wuxian? Also wei wuxian refuses to answer when asked what happened. He himself, after all these years, didn't know what he want. This then proceeded to be the only time they talked about their feelings lmao sure maybe they wont talk about the sacrifices theyve made for the other person, thats consistent with their characters, but really? He has little manpower, no experience, minimal coffers, and the human equivalent of a nuclear bomb that everyone either wants or wants to destroyed. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. However, once Wei Wuxian appears and begins to battle them, Jiang Cheng realized that Jiang Yanli is also present. Even after he killed his brother in law, although he did not go to comfort him like JYL did, and he did agree to the anti-WWX alliance, he didn't attack WWX. In the novel, he gets chased by Fairy while looking for Jin Ling to fix the curse, which is how he runs into not only . JC understands that objectivly, he should hate WWX for what he did to him. Read the topic about Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian's relationship on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! When it comes to how the novel addresses WWX's darker emotions, part of me wonders if there are likecontextual or cultural things that get lost in translation? Yes. He takes Jiang Cheng to a mountain and instructs him to follow a path up the mountain, where he will meet Baoshan Sanren. Besides I don't know what to think about this falling scene. in the novel and donghua, wwx destroyed the stygian seal just before he died, the seal that held control over the corpses. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} Wei Wuxian is the youngest in the family, wi. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works It's pretty natural that he doesn't fall over himself to thank WWX for it given how it's presented to him as a weapon against him. Finally, and my biggest issue with the novel was the treatment of Lan Xichen and Jiang Cheng. [43] He forces Jiang Cheng to pull the sealed sword from its sheath and reveals that Wei Wuxian had given Jiang Cheng his Golden Core. [47], Jiang Cheng strikes Jin Ling for crying out for Jin Guangyao to run. A subset of the letters Jiang Cheng never sent to Wei Wuxian. Why is it that now its like Im supposed to have wronged you?! theres many theories. As he is too afraid to tell anyone else, he trips and injured his leg. I think the author provided enough explanation on Wen Ning going beserk. JC knows WWX would never, but the rest don't. Chapter 16 Its really hard for me to accept that WWX who w as repeatedly described as having a hero complex never felt guilty for murdering innocents, sure he might not have liked the other cultivators but he would not have been fine with just killing them when they provoked him?? When they go to the Cloud Recesses, Jiang Cheng is 15. The three months wei ying spent alone, struggling to survive in the Burial Mounds, the guilt after killing his sisters husband and later accidentally hurting his sister with his zombie (both times knowing about their kid), the time his brother jiang cheng KILLED HIM?? But then something would lack there. I would guess he started to feel betrayed especially when he saw WWX with LWJ because he would have thought that WWX would come find him first. "Shush. JC is a Sect Leader. [9], When Jiang Cheng reprimands Wei Wuxian for playing the hero by joining the fight to support Lan Wangji and Jin Zixuan, Jiang Fengmian rebukes his son. Press J to jump to the feed. After finding everything out its clear he wouldnt have wanted to fight anymore because he had nothing left to fight for and he only ever fought for others anyway, never himself, yet everyone he knew or would fight for turned against him. What i mean is that i am not sure how much "time" he have to deal with this guilt. Point is, I think, he knew the other dudes he was torturing were not WWX, so he just used them as dummies for his little anger problems, and when he saw WWX resurrected and shameless ofc he just wanted to release his anger, that's why he patted him gently on the back with Zidian. Jiang Cheng is unconcerned with dark technique so long as the user kills their shared enemies. Then LWJ show up and suddenly all his troubles disappear. They have no weapons, they are being led to an underground cavethey were all children, including her own son, her sworn sister's son who would have been her daughters future husband. But out of the two of them, it's JC that bears the brunt of the damage WWX causes, politically. He is infuriated when Lan Wangji destroys them and further infuriated when he encounters Wei Wuxian resurrected in the body of Mo Xuanyu, as Wei Wuxian has both accidentally reprimanded Jin Ling for not having a mother and used demonic cultivation. When Wen Ning asked WWX about Jiang Cheng, he said it wasn't JC who killed him. Fairy leads him to the Guanyin Temple, where he discovers Jin Ling, Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen, and Nie Huaisang all held captive by Su She and Jin Guangyao. 7.6 (175) Rate. [24], Jiang Cheng leads the clans against Wei Wuxian, blaming him for Jiang Yanli's death. Since Wei Wuxian's parents died, he grew up in Jiangjia, so he got to know Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. Chapter 7 And as a personal aside, it genuinely pisses me off that as lot of fans who don't like JC are very reductive of him. so i mean, either way, the resentful spirits/energy from either his army or his amulet could have been the real cause of his death. He picked up Chenqing and refused to give it to JGY in exchange of Suibian because he knew that WWX would look for the dizi not the sword. This can't wait, please solve it soon." Wei Wuxian says as he finally rises from his bow. Jin guangyao was enjoying it now. Sorry for the long explanation, these two are really complicated. That sums everything up, pretty convincing. So he did not want to return to the living. I have to say that Suzerain Jiang is like a complex of contradictions. What chapter did Wei Wuxian die? Im Vietnamese so I think the text Ive read is a lot closer to the original text compared to the English version due to language similarities. The caveat to that is, love is not enough to stay together or to get along. [46], When Jin Guangyao holds a guqin string to Jin Ling's throat to bargain his escape, Jiang Cheng begs to be taken hostage instead, but Jin Guangyao declines due to his injuries. Thank you!! ", So, he isn't enemies with him, that is for sure, yet they both need time to put the name of their current relationship. Birth Name Audio Drama (JP) [15], Jiang Cheng flees the scene and spends the rest of the night running amok at Lotus Pier, demanding to know if any cultivators besides him can unsheathe Suibian. It's been fifty-five years since Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian's marriage. In the novel I was under the impression that he was in the purgatory, paying for what he did (or wandering as a broken soul because nobody give him a proper burial?). But why did he stab the rock and why did WWX let go? Although Jiang Cheng often lectures Wei Wuxian for his provocative behavior in the hopes of curbing his wild antics, his efforts are typically in vain. But the most compelling for it to be suicide is that Wei wuxian himself made it clear to Xue Yang that a soul who has no desire to be in this world cannot be summoned back. Jiang Cheng then turns his wrath on Jin Ling, while Jin Guangyao tries and fails to pacify him. Yilin Patriarch Wei Wuxian died in the battle with three biggest clans happened in No Night City. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} [30], Jiang Cheng takes Jin Ling in search of the man-eating castles rumored to be near Qinghe. Since he was "seventeen already" during the massacre at Lotus Pier, he is approximately Wei Wuxian's age only a few months younger (Courage, Part). Jin Ling runs away after a fight one morning, and by the time Jiang Cheng finds him, Jin Ling declines to tell his uncle that "Mo Xuanyu" has saved him from being eaten by the Stone Castles. Novel Jin Ling, however, returned the weapon and fought the corpses with Suihua, despite Jiang Cheng's frantic worry for his safety. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! After seeing that Wei Wuxian is determined to restore the consciousness of Wen Ning's Fierce Corpse, he and Wei Wuxian quarrel more, until Wei Wuxian insists on leaving the Yunmeng Jiang Clan to protect them from trouble. I wish they had more scenes where LZ and WWX talked their feelings out before they got together. As Wei Wuxian waits on the foot of the mountain, he is ambushed by the Wen sect and stabbed through the chest by Wen Chao's sword. And at the end of the novel, their still justalone. He took the Wen Reminants, a political move JC literally cannot protect him from, thus forcing them to stay apart even though WWX swore many times to always be by his side. Am I not supposed to hate you? jiangfengmian; jinsect; jiangcheng +14 more # 13. . In the original novel : WWX actually commit suicide. JYL IS marrying JZX, but remember, this is (psudo) ancient China: as a women Yanli doesn't have much political leverage. It would explain why each version differs . [11], The returning Jiang Fengmian finds and releases them, unaware of the situation at Lotus Pier. He coordinates with Lan Xichen and Lan Wangji to retrieve the swords of those who had attended the Wen's training and carried Wei Wuxian's Suibian alongside his Sandu. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! About the guilt and angst thing. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. Both JC and JYL love WWX deeply. [32], Jiang Cheng then harshly tells Jin Ling not to come back if he fails to capture the soul-consuming beast. Like I said at the beginning, the more he waited the angrier at WWX he got. If Wei Wuxian regained consciousness he would need his presence more than anyone's else. After 16 years later, Mo Xuanyu from Mo residence sacrifices himself and bring Wei Wuxian back to get revenge for him. At Nightless City, JYL came to see him, thus putting herself in danger and shoving WWX out of the way and took a death blow for him. As for the thirteen years of Wei Wuxian's death, Jiang Cheng captured, tortured and murdered demonic cultivators he suspected were possessed by Wei Wuxian; Lan Wangji collected and preserved the little things that reminded him of Wei Wuxian, honoring him and continuing to keep him in his heart, just as he did with his mother after death. Wang Lingjiao never pretended to be a good person. When one of them dies before the other at the age of eighty-three, leaving the other to mourn, the one remaining, waits to be reunited with his love. That is, ironically, what Madam Yu meant all this time but due to her own personal issues with JFM it gets lot in the bullshit. [31], During this time, he also co-parents the orphaned Jin Ling alongside Jin Guangyao. He probably turned against himself with guilt by that point. I also think he definitely 100% loved WWX at least in the past. I think he rather believed its not over, as much as Lan Zhan. I think, based on the novel, that what JGY told him, that everyone wanted him to resent WWX to harm Jiang Sect, made him think finally a bit. [21], Jiang Cheng then visits Wei Wuxian at the Burial Mounds. [44], Jiang Cheng clangs two swords together to overpower the sound of Jin Guangyao's guqin. After certain events, even though he did originally want to keep to hating Wei Wu Xian and blaming him for everything - when the big bad appeared and more things were revealed, Jiang Cheng tried to shift the blame to said villain. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. WE as the audience know WWX's thought, motivations and how he was set up/led into certain senerios. But in other media it seems like he did not really "died" completely. [40], When Sisi and Bicao arrive, Jiang Cheng spends a significant amount of time interviewing the two women about Jin Guangyao's misdeeds. JC is a very realistic and relatable personality, which means he's complicated and his emotions aren't all that straightforward. before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him.
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