And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire [i.e., overcome or defeated by Christs Atonement]. For those who once were baptized and confirmed into Mormonism, what is your status? Because of their disobedience, these spirits ended up not receiving bodies, a necessary ingredient to progress to mortality and be qualified for one of the three kingdoms of glory. In revealing Satans tactics, Nephi wrote: And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell; and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is noneand thus he whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from whence there is no deliverance. They are sons of perdition because, Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to open shame (D. & C. 76:35). Then is the time when their torments shall be as a lake of fire and brimstone, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever; and then is the time that they shall be chained down to an everlasting destruction, according to the power and captivity of Satan, he having subjected them according to his will. Finally, John saw that death and hell delivered up the dead to be judged according to their works, and death and hell were cast into [a] lake of fire (Rev. Outer darkness is a eternal place of torment reserved for those who are "sons of perdition." According to LDS scripture, this will be a place that "where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth" (Doctrine and Covenants 101:91; also see 133:73). 20:14), or the outer darkness (Matt. In this parable, a king arranged a wedding for his son, but the normal guests did not come; therefore, the king sent his servants to gather guests from off the street. This is the second death. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The. The Book of Mormon contains six references to the second death: one reference by Jacob (Jacob 3:11), three by Alma (Alma 12:16, 32; 13:30), and two by Samuel the Lamanite (Hel. These men and women cannot be redeemed, and will be the only ones who will suffer the second death. Required fields are marked *. spirit prison. And remember you can be excommunicated for asking church leaders to give solid answers so trust the apologists who say to only trust the prophets on matters like this. Even if a person had once been a Latter-day Saint, Kimball said it still was practically impossible for a human to become a son of perdition: The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file to commit such a sin (Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 123) (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, p. 161). For behold, he surely must die that salvation may come; yea, it behooveth him and becometh expedient that he dieth, to bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, that thereby men may be brought into the presence of the Lord. T F Once a spirit enters Outer Darkness, there will be no leaving there. Chapter 40. 14:18.) Yea, and it bringeth to pass the condition of repentance, that whosoever repenteth the same is not hewn down and cast into the fire; but whosoever repenteth not is hewn down and cast into the fire; and there cometh upon them again a spiritual death, yea, a second death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness. Just one rebellion. Even the most evil of people, including Adolph Hitler and those of his ilk, appear to have a place reserved for them in nothing less than the telestial kingdom. Add an RSC shortcut to this device's Homescreen, In the menu, scroll past any icons and tap. Banishment from the glory of God. 40 talks in 40 days for General Conference, Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. It occurs in a doctrinal discussion Alma conducted with his son Corianton. (To see his baptism for the dead record and other temple work done for him, click here.). FAIRMormon says on this page even: When any man, except the President of the Church, undertakes to proclaim one unsettled doctrine, as among two or more doctrines in dispute, as the settled doctrine of the Church, we may know that he is not moved upon by the Holy Ghost, unless he is acting under the direction and by the authority of the President. Divine Love in the Fathers Plan (Dallin H. Oaks, April 2022). Although this is an obvious scare tactic, this accusation is not true according to important LDS leaders. How many people. 9:16), unquenchable fire (Mosiah 2:38), and hell fire (3 Ne. T F It is practically impossible for those who were human to ever be sent to Outer Darkness. Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of Godbanished entirely from his presence. So, if you are directly listing to Satan, like Cain, and actively turning away from God, like Cain, then you can become a Son of Perdition. The views expressed . Those who must suffer with Satan for the deeds done in mortality will go with him into outer darkness. And, if you havent come into relationship with the Jesus of the Bible, I encourage you to do some homework and meet Him. First, it is another name for spirit prison, a temporary place in the postmortal world for those who died without a knowledge of the truth or those who were disobedient in mortality. Ah yes, well with clarity like that, why would Jeremy ever doubt them and ask for official sources! But wait! It clarifies how using an obscure quote does not define LDS doctrines or dogmas. Big Love's episode "Outer Darkness" Summary: It is not our intention to discuss details of the portrayal of the temple ceremony here. Additional doctrinal truth concerning the great gulf can be found in the Doctrine and Covenants (see D&C 138:1837). How impossible would it be for a former Mormon (with full knowledge, even!) Concerning the first resurrection John observed: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years (Rev. Often in the scriptures it is difficult to discern which helltemporary or permanentis being spoken of, since many references to hell in the scriptures are used in a nonspecific manner to simply designate a place or state of suffering for the wicked. Note the Book of Mormons addition of the words is as. Serve Satan. However, sons of perdition cannot achieve forgiveness and will be completely cast outside of the light of God. First, LDS Church scripture uses the term outer darkness to refer to a condition in the spirit world. 8:1112). Wilford Woodruff in a meeting with the apostles, 1893 D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997) p. 795. Mormon Wiki, for example has a pretty specific definition of who doesnt go there but lacks any citations: Sons of Perdition as those few souls who have been born on this earth who have been made partakers of Gods power, yet suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy God by denying the Holy Spirit after having received it, denying the Only Begotten Son and put him to an open shame. They openly and knowingly fight against God and Christ, having sided with Satan even though they had once tasted of full gospel knowledge by the power of the Holy Ghost.There are those who fear that they have committed the unpardonable sin, because they have not been faithful members of the Church. 16:811)meaning to be left with those who would partake of that permanent hell reserved only for those who, as Jacob stated, are filthy still.. Therefore the Lord used Satans evil acts to accomplish his own purposes. 6:28), hell fire (3 Ne. Those who have never received the light are not to become Sons of Perdition. . This is the final destination of Satan himself. Some Christians have believed the lake of fire John spoke of to be a literal lake. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. Conclusion The Book of Mormon text confirms the truth of New Testament teachings on hell, second death, lake of fire and brimstone, and outer darkness. In this context, outer darkness is the spirit prison, or that part of the spirit world that the wicked inhabit prior to their resurrection. Jesus disciples were told not to fear those who could kill the body but to fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell (Matt. 5:30). The Bible teaches that there is a devil and a hell, but the place of hell in the plan of salvation is taught best by the Book of Mormon. The followers of Satan who will suffer with him in eternity. He once said that a person. The apostle John saw the final judgment and wrote of the destiny of the wicked: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Yea, behold, this death bringeth to pass the resurrection, and redeemeth all mankind from the first deaththat spiritual death; for all mankind, by the fall of Adam being cut off from the presence of the Lord, are considered as dead, both as to things temporal and to things spiritual. Those mortals who never join the LDS Church (through baptism) cannot become sons of perdition. Usually, when one is going to hell, the unspoken caveat is unless they repent. Outer Darkness - Social Hall - Mormon Dialogue & Discussion Board. Italics in original). Okay so clearly we have billions of souls who qualify as perdition and go to outer darkness according to one prophet in his personal books and not officially speaking as a prophet. There are ten references to the lake of fire and brimstone in the Book of Mormon. Banishment from all progress. 3. Jacob identified death and hell as temporal and spiritual death. He had a sure witness of the Lord and willfully chose to follow Satan instead. To become a church member, baptism and confirmation are required. 16:18). I can give you more than plenty of examples of that. . However, Lucifer did not know all the purposes of the Father as we learn from the Pearl of Great Price, Moses 4:6. Outer Darkness, I always heard, was reserved for a handful of suckers like Cain and Judas who saw God and/or Jesus and were still rebellious. There are possible characteristics of a son of perdition. According to the churchs website: The followers of Satan who will suffer with him in eternity. . Through baptism and confirmation by priesthood authority, you became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (True to the Faith: A Gospel Reference, 2004, p. 21, So, even if you attended LDS Church services, sang the hymns, and even partook of the weekly sacrament, yet you were never baptized and confirmed into the faith, you can never become a son of perdition. 22:13) if it is also a place of perpetual fire (Matt. lucifer. As a young boy, I attended a two-week Christian camp. The first three are referred to as the three degrees of glory, often compared to the sun, the moon, and the stars (D&C 76:70 . Outer darkness is something which cannot be described, except that we know that it is to be placed beyond the benign and comforting influence of the Spirit of God banished entirely from his presence (Doctrines of Salvation2:220). 67, LDS Church Archives. (To see the differences between the three kingdoms of glory, click here.) One memorable night, he instructed us about the pains of hell. He asked us to imagine being stabbed and having that initial intense pain of the insertion of the knife last for twenty years. Doctrine and Covenants / Pearl of Great Price, Mormon Objections to Christian Evangelism, Teachings of the Presidents of the Church. 12:16), hell which hath no end (1 Ne. Is Jesus the Only Redeemer? (Joseph F. Smith,The Second Death,inBrian H. Stuy (editor), Collected Discourses: Delivered by Wilford Woodruff, his two counselors, the twelve apostles, and others, 18681898, 5 vols., (Woodland Hills, Utah: B.H.S. To qualify, a person would not only have to leave the Mormon church but also vehemently speak against it. J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Church Leaders and the Scriptures, [original title When Are the Writings or Sermons of Church Leaders Entitled to the Claim of Scripture?] Immortality and Eternal Life: Reflections from the Writings and Messages of President J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Vol, 2, (1969-70): 221; address to Seminary and Institute Teachers, BYU (7 July 1954); reproduced in Church News (31 July 1954); also reprinted in Dialogue 12/2 (Summer 1979): 6881. By taking 2 Nephi 2:25 to its logical conclusion, we learn that Satan also fell that men might be, and that they might have joy! For many are called, but few are chosen." I did cite sources spoken from the pulpit by a prophet. (J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Church Leaders and the Scriptures, [original title When Are the Writings or Sermons of Church Leaders Entitled to the Claim of Scripture?] Immortality and Eternal Life: Reflections from the Writings and Messages of President J. Reuben Clark, Jr., Vol, 2, (1969-70): 221; address to Seminary and Institute Teachers, BYU (7 July 1954); reproduced in Church News (31 July 1954); also reprinted in Dialogue 12/2 (Summer 1979): 6881.). Clearly you dont know what is and is not doctrine, and are trying to throw shade. Johns announcement of death and hell releasing their dead for judgment is augmented by the Book of Mormon prophet Jacob, who taught the same doctrine but provided significantly more detail. According to the Doctrine and Covenants, this will be a place that even in outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth (Doctrine and Covenants 101:91; also see 133:73). 21:8). You not only need to have been a Mormon, but you have to have full knowledge that this is the restored church of God and still fought against it. 2:8-10) Jesus' atonement provided immortality for all people. . This is full on rejection of God. Jesus proclaimed to Peter that the gates of hell would not prevail against the rock upon which He would build the Church (Matt. 20:13). Dennis L. Largey, Hell Second Death, Lake of Fire and Brimstone, and Outer Darkness, inThe Book of Mormon and the Message of the Four Gospels, ed. (-Joseph Smith in the King Follett Discourse), There is my definition I used in my previous post. 10:28). 15:29, 35; Alma 19:29; 54:7), sleep of hell (2 Ne. The first three are referred to as the three degrees of glory, often compared to the sun, the moon, and the stars ( D&C 76:70, 78, 98 ). And thats why men alone get, I mean need the priesthood. This is a Son of perdition. Smith described these spirits who were the first to display rebellious ways: Lucifer became perdition by rebellion. The latter meaning is a place where the glory of God is completely absent, and is the place where Satan and his angels will reside. Dennis L. Largey was an associate professor of ancient scripture at Brigham Young University when this was published. Yet I an certainly exempt from outer darkness, no questions asked. (Selections of Doctrines of Salvation, p. 462. An in depth look at the Mormon doctrine of hell. And now I say unto you, that mercy hath no claim on that man; therefore his final doom is to endure a never-ending torment (Mosiah 2:3839). The Book of Mormon also makes reference to everlasting fire (2 Ne. They will live in eternal darkness, torment, and misery with Satan and his angels forever. Additionally it provides helpful commentary on New Testament passages concerning hell. Sons of perdition include (1) those who followed Satan and were cast out of heaven for rebellion during premortality and (2) those who were permitted to be born to this world with physical bodies but then served Satan and turned utterly against God. You have to be pretty bad to go to the Teresita's kingdom, and horrendous to go to outer darkness. Clearly, when it comes to perdition and outer darkness, I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me, and anyone who speaks on the matter has a dizzying intellect. Okay, so Cain, we have one guaranteed person according to no citation whatsoever. The kingdom that is not a kingdom of glory is called outer darkness. No Mormon since the 1890 change has had the authority to marry any man to more than one woman. Italics in original). [1], Other views include those of Zane C. Hodges who controversially suggested that it represents a place for those who make it to heaven based on their faith, but have failed to perform good works during their time on the earth.[2]. What is the Mormon plan of salvation? The "authority" to marry a man to one wife is not the same as the "authority" to marry a man to more than one wife. In each of the New Testament references to outer darkness, Christ declared the punishment that awaits faithless and wicked people. He is damned by mortification and is his own condemner and tormenter. Unless someone has rejected love, like the Nephites, I believe there is still hope that they will repent. 8 - 14 are for safety. In Mormonism, it depends. Oh yes they did: after a man has sinned the sin against the Holy Ghost, there is no repentance for himlike many of the apostates of Christof the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. These pains are similar to the state of suffering experienced by the ungodly who after mortality are assigned to hell. Therefore, they have drunk out of the cup of the wrath of God, which justice could no more deny unto them than it could deny that Adam should fall because of his partaking of the forbidden fruit; therefore, mercy could have claim on them no more forever. We believe that after the final judgment there are four places to which a person may be sent. What is the Book of Mormons contribution to our understanding of the New Testaments teachings concerning hell, or that lake of fire John calls the second death (Rev. Sorry ladies, you cant actually apostatize from the church, I guess (Someone tell Kate Kelly her excommunication is not valid!). In Christianity, the "exterior darkness" or outer darkness is a place referred to three times in the Gospel of Matthew (8:12, 22:13, and 25:30) into which a person may be "cast out", and where there is "weeping and gnashing of teeth". So a heads up, this does not include you or any one who has ever been or will be born on Earth. Mormons believe that only a Son of Perdition will go to Outer Darkness, their version of most Christian religions understanding of Hell. 12:22). After inspecting the intruder, the king instructed his servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. 14:1819). For many years, those who have forfeited their membership in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints may have been told by other Mormons that they were Sons of Perdition destined for Outer Darkness. (Matt. Banishment from the power of God. Many of the apostates of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Temporary abode of the wicked. The Lord said no man knoweth So, theres probably a good reason that there is some debate and confusion on it. Even the wicked of the earth who never knew the power of God, after they have paid the price of their sinningfor they must suffer the excruciating torment which sins will bringshall at last come forth from the prison house. This is the choice of an individual to reject God. The Book of Mormon provides another testament of the reality of a designated place called hell, where the wicked are consigned. Latter Day Saint beliefs on hell are connected with the movement's doctrines of the plan of salvation, the degrees of glory and the telestial kingdom. While many Latter-day Saints bristle at the doctrine of hell (i.e., How could a loving God send His children to such a place?), they may have not considered the fact that these spirits were never given the chance to have a physical body because of the wrong choice they made in the preexistence. These are they who do two very specific things. Youll never regret it. Horror Short Film "Outer Darkness" | ALTER | Online Premiere 31,262 views Mar 31, 2022 Subscribe to ALTER on YouTube: https://goo.gl/LnXRC3 .more .more 1K Dislike Share Save Description. Gregory A. Boyd, Paul R. Eddy Across the Spectrum: Understanding Issues in Evangelical Theology pp285 2009 "For example, how can hell be a place of outer darkness (Matt. [DS 2:225.] The Book of Mormon contains one reference to outer darkness. Today, interpretation of these "outer darkness" verses are a subset of Protestant discussion on hell and annihilationism. It is true that the only mortals who had once been members are eligible to become sons of perdition, a fact that may worry some former Mormons who wonder if they might be destined for outer darkness. Even the regular Wikipedia seems confused: Sons of Perdition are: The pre-mortal spirit followers of Satan. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. The Sons of Perdition are those who have lived as mortal men and women on the earth, have had the heavens opened to them and received a certain knowledge that Jesus is the Christ, and then have rejected the Savior, "having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame" (Doctrine and Covenants 76:34-35; see also Doctrine and Covenants 76:3133, 3637). In the parable of the talents, the returning lord instructed that the wicked and slothful servant who hid his talent in the earth be cast into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matt. And I said unto them that it was a representation of that awful hell, which the angel said unto me was prepared for the wicked. Return to the Crash Course Mormonism Index. Learn how your comment data is processed. kingdoms of glory. These spirits never received a mortal body necessary to progress to a kingdom of glory. 3:20; 10:9- 10; Eph. 5:22), burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire (Matt. We probably do not want to know how horrible it is just like in this life, some things that are so horrible that happen (especially to children) wed rather not know about it, if possible. has got to say that the sun does not shine while he sees it; he has got to deny Jesus Christ when the heavens have been opened unto him, and to deny the plan of salvation with his eyes open to the truth of it (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 358). 23:33). and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell (James 3:6). He cried: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death. This desperate cry for forgiveness through Christ brought deliverance from the pains of hell Alma had experienced because of his sins (Alma 36:1620). I said: I dont know and he said, How can I find outI just called Spencer Kimball and he told me he didnt know either. They place themselves beyond the power of repentance and beyond the mercies of God.
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