Manufacturer: LWRC International Model: SMG Caliber: 45 Auto / ACP SKU: 850006403509 MPN: SMGPB45B8S UPC: 850006403509 Vendor: Gunprime (3) Sale! Should I just move on? Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol. I had an interesting experience with my SMG-45 acquired early SN: 000118. JavaScript is disabled. I don't feel like such a moron when I clean it. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. That's all I really wanted. Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRC's own attachment system). That is sweet, but that price tag Wow, kinda surprised you actually got one, let alone two. Ill only buy delayed blow back. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. They can be had new retail for as little as $500, which is the cheapest I've ever known them to be in the last 20 years. PASS. Still, video games get people into guns. Keeping the ergonomic traits from the AR platform and 000 UPC: 850006403509 MPN: SMGPB45B8S The SMG 45's non-reciprocating charging handle folds flat and is easily swappable from left to right side. These versions all come with an 8.5 barrel, the SB Tactical SBTi folding subgun brace and two 25-round magazines (or less capacity depending on how much Freedom your location allows). John 15:13 - "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.". If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. A++++ LWRCI. Your link has been automatically embedded. ), yes Ive looked at the b&t but it just looks awful to me . By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. and our LWRCICR5TG16SPRBT. But again. Please contact a dealer from our Jun 30, 2022. They can be had for less than a kit built Romanian AK-47, whi. Horrible reviews. Time will tell need to get to the range with it more. I admit Rangers first thread didnt make it sound like it was worth the $$. 23 up to also run Super and have a idea of what it takes..?? During firing and the initial steps . It shot a shotgun pattern group at close distances. Yeah, games sell guns and get people into firearms. I loves me some .45 but for $3k, Im taking Dan Wesson and S&W Performance Center 1911 bobtail commanders. $ 2,499.00 For sale is a LWRC SMG-45 semi-automatic pistol in .45 ACP. Solid as a brick; awesome recoil abatement through the delayed blowback and the fact I can use ubiquitous UMP mags. Can't disagree more with the guy that said "If you know AR's, you'll know this". For starters, the short recoil delayed blowback operating system provides the shooter a softer shooting weapon and fewer parts wear than cheaper PCC offerings. The blowback design really reduces recoil. I have one. NEW SMG .45 PISTOL. $65.95. Sponsored Radical Firearms Socom RPR 556 Nato AR-15 Rifle. But it doesnt mean those are particularly good beers just because theyre sold in massive quantities. We kept one as a demo for a few weeks and put several hundred rounds through it. Free Weapon Pack for FiveM. [SHOT 2020] LWRC SMG-45 Magazine Would have fun owning it if I could afford such an extravagance and all that money to keep it well fed. Specifications: CALIBER: .45 ACP BARREL: 8.5"" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel WEIGHT: 5.9 lbs LENGTH: 15.25-26" MUZZLE THREADS: . Well there for sale at Omaha fire arms right now and Im not buying it ( right now ) . As awesome as these seem, I let mine go. Login for Special Pricing. You are using an out of date browser. The first one, was one of the first produced and it had some issues with magazine pressure and failures to feed. As I stated above, accuracy was garbage. It's such a great little package on 45. Only reason for 4-stars is the lack of good takedown/reassembly instructions in the manual, and/or the lack of a good online video instruction guide on the LWRCI web site. A 45 and Ill gun like that has always appealed to me. http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa364/jgarcia2430/236C79EB-55C9-4B87-B867-C54EC77F836B_zpsaayxt15u.jpg, https://www.ar15.com/forums/Equipment-Exchange/-NIB-LWRC-SMG-45-4100-shipped/174-2130906/, https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62232/photo_2021-06-04_18-19-37_jpg-1978187.JPG. Like the Glock 19x, Sig MCX Rattler, FN 509, and many other firearms originally developed for contracts, the LWRC SMG-45 popularity draws increasing demand from civilian customers. I know its not gonna be some precision shooter but I also dont want to have absolutely terrible groups at 20 yards, Im waiting for mine to be sent back from LWRC was having feeding issues with the v1 mags with or without my sil co osprey With booster even disassembled the can and cleaned and oiled the booster with the same results never got a chance to check accuracy since the first test was so disappointing that I immediately sent it back they claimed they will test with an osprey I hope they test accuracy as well since they now know its a problem SN 15xx. In stock. By (Although my Barrett MRAD is definitely in the top-3. Available in 9mm and 45 ACP, the LWRC SMG pistol has an 8.5-inch cold hammer-forged Chromoly steel barrel, a full-length Picatinny rail, a highly customizable M-LOK mounting system with panels at the 3, 6, and 9 o'clock positions, fully ambidextrous controls, a proprietary Ultra Combat Grip, an SB Tactical Folding Brace, and Magpul MBUS Pro Sights. April 29, 2019 at 23:33 I just kind of have an overall level of disgust with them due to the influence of CODMW3/other games. Fucker shifts all over the place. When I talked to them at SHOT Show, they were like, "Oh yeah, we're cranking them out as fast as we can. The SMG-45 was released at the end of 2019 but at SHOT 2020 LWRC had more to say about the platform. . Got the zero pretty much on but it was still scattered all over the target. Im extremely excited to hopefully put some rounds through one eventually. It uses a delayed blowback recoil system and has very light recoil compared to your typical 9mm AR. If money wasn't an issue, I'd get this gun in a heartbeat just for how cool it looks with that magazine. Keep Your Powder Dry. FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS RF-15 RIFLES AVAILABLE IN 5.56, 300 BLACKOUT, AND 7.62X39 FS Tag Heuer Formula 1 Chronograph (New Updates! Mainly just another fun expensive range toy. My buddy bought one. Maybe they had a vote, maybe its something else but it is what it is. Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking, which delays the opening of the action and allows the pressure to drop and more of the gas and pressure to exit the muzzle rather than the ejection port. If you don't have an optic yet, then no worries it ships with robust Magpul MBUS PRO backup iron sights that won't fail you when it counts. Con's a little pricey, early jams until mags loosened up, first few disassembles and reassembles were frustrating. SMG .45 FEATURES: Fully Ambidextrous lower controls: AR Selector, bolt catch, grip and hammer/trigger allows easy operation for right or left handed shooters Innovative Paddle Style Mag release. You can shoot a PCC much faster and more accurately than a pistol. That dude just needs more traffic and web hits to drive revenue. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.2 lbs and compact folding to a mere 15.3" Listening closely to shooters, operators and consumers, the SMG .45 Pistol design features compact ergonomics with unique performance features including: an 8.5" Cold Hammer Forged Chromoly Steel Barrel, LWRCI user-configurable rail systemwith strategically placed Picatinny segments, LWRCI Rail Panels at 3,6 and 9 with hand stop,LWRCI Fully ambidextrous lower controls, LWRCIUltra Combat Grip, New and Improved Advanced Fire Control Group, Magpul MBUS Pro Sights and more . COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Im a LWRC. Not prone like in the video. . To be fair, Id bet you had the exact same level of bullshit with MP5s and other HK shit two decades ago when the Rainbow Six games were all the rage. SMG 45. It does seem like they refined it and made it more custom, I was thinking it would have a standard AR charging handle and be blow back, basically just an AR45. $10.40. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. Curious what Lwrc says . LWRC surprised everyone at NRAAM this year by releasing a completely new platform, the SMG-45. - with improvements , suppressor & optics ready, lightweight & compact with the SB brace. It has been operating flawlessly right out of the gate and seems to eat anything from regular target rounds to my duty carry +P rounds consistently without any issues. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. Churn out a few thousand to drop the price, add a 10mm and 9mm option, and theyll sell like mad. and they will not be the last. Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. What am I doing wrong? Garand Thumb did a review and he hated it. I was about to buy one but like always I try to do my due diligence before making a major purchase . Um nope. I really like mine. The B&T APC45 is less expensive and we feel better made. I'm thrilled to hear that this rifle is finally shipping. The other shot just fine. If you see one in a gun store all the people my age and below want to marvel at it, play with it and a bunch of them end up muzzling people with it. But $3k That's top end pricing man. They sold the other two online almost instantly. Mind you that during this zero phase I was using BOTH the V1 mags and the non-V1 mags and the 15rd mag. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and . Hi, I bought this weapon about 2 months ago. Quick View. Or should LWRC send me a new one? LWRC SMG 45 25 Round Magazine $72.75 (Save up to 6%) Price $68.39 L04-0061C01 LWRC International LWRC DI CA Compliant Rifle Price $1807.00 In Stock ICDIR5B16CAC LWRC International LWRC IC-A5 556 NATO 16.1 In. .Personally, if I was going to buy something specifically because I saw it in a game it would be like the BFG from Doom, Gravity Gun from Half-Life or something crazy from Borderlands or the Destiny franchise., Im still waiting for a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range. I much prefer the HK style 4 position safety, but I can see the utility of a gun you can flip from safe directly to burst without the risk of accidentally setting it to semi or dumping a magazine. LWRC SMG- 45ACP 25RD 8.5" PISTOL SB TACTICAL FOLDING BRACE Gun #: 913349227 Seller: ThreeNailsArmory GA Sales: 17 $2,835.00 Full Details 4 Image (s) LWRC SMG-45 (SMGPB45B8S) Pistol Gun #: 951319024 Seller: Jays Guns and Accessories GA Sales: 11329 $3,999.99 Full Details More from this Seller 3 Image (s) And since it looks heavily AR in its design, I wonder if its going to break trigger pins every 800 rounds like many other 9MM AR platform guns do. Its not really my cup of tea but I doubt the price will be that high forever. Select Options. Cleaning was much easier than expected. Without a doubt the LWRC SMG 45 is the perfect weapon of choice for military, police and all shooters alike. Help Support the site and gain access to the Feed, see fewer ads, and get a new icon under your name showing you're a supporter! Thanks! Its good to know there are ones that work well out there . It features an adjustable length of pull and, based on the two screws seen in the top tube, possibly a facility for future cheek rests. LWRL04-0056C01. ago The first shot ever sheared the hook on the hammer. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I can't wait to see how the 9mm version shoots! Accuracy has been good not great, but Im still getting used to the short LOP of the brace. Too many guns, not enough range time. I elected to take the suppressor off and fine tune the zero. Not going to happen. It includes panels to aid in gripping a hot firearm following continuous strings of fire and a handstop to prevent the user from shooting their hands similar to other backpack guns like the new Daniel Defense DDM4 Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). The right side of the LWRC SMG-45 features a bolt release and bolt catch that mirrors the AR-style one on the left side. 0.450.45ACP. However now that I have been running the SMG-45 and have several thousand rounds down the pipe I'm a believer. Groups in close are tight (2-inches at 25 yards on a bench rest) good, at least for me and my crappy eyesight. That's because of its simple design: A blowback semi-automatic with few sturdy parts. He said it could be the best pcc out there if it wasnt for the accuracy issues . AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Its the reason why HK early on, only developed 45 ACP suppressed with the Mark 23 SOCOM for Navy Seals and later USP for civilians. Please enter your username or email address. It is very shootable (word?) I wrote Lwrc to see that they say about it . Sounds stupid, but IME, its something that attracts a certain kind of idiot and, if you get one, guess who you end up attracting? My wife almost beat the fuck out of some skater idiot for pointing an EVO at her last time we were at a gun shop. LWRCI SMG .45- PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. . Paste as plain text instead, Got mine the other day SN 21##. You get all the muzzle velocity increase youll practically see with LWRCs barrel length, a caliber begging for a can, and a half-inch thumper of a bullet out the end. The ambidextrous controls and MLOK handguard makes for a highly customizable weapons platform. It's a weird setting, but it's VERY important for accuracy. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. LWRCI ICR5TG16SPRBT IC-SPR 556 16.1 BILLET TUNG. I really hope Lwrc acknowledges and fixes the accuracy issues with the smg 45 . What does this offer over that? I picked one up a few weeks ago. Your previous content has been restored. Try finding B&T APC 45 (blow back) mags for less than $90. no info: . But I wanted a short .45. No reliability or accuracy issues with factory or my reloads. Figured a few others struggling with this problem might be interested in that update. Lets not forget that the SMG is modular and as more calibers come out, you can swap. Add To Cart. This is the 2nd one of these that I've owned. They developed the gun for the government. Maybe true on the out side, but NOT on the inside. Add To Cart. The result is a. With a relatively inexpensive 300 BLK upper, you get the same utility as the SMG at a fraction of the cost. Mine runs fine with and without my Obsidian 45. Thanks in advance. Used New; Trade In $ 1793.81$ 1838.99 Length: 6.36". Wife really enjoyed shooting which she is does not like shooting my .45 handguns for size and stability. HK Parts has the US made mags for $49. Dumped the LWRCi. someone above even mention this . Ive long been a proponent/advocate that as HK and Kriss did with their MP5/10mm and Kriss's 10mm, companies should take advantage of the fact they're making a shoulder fired weapon.. ie it aint a handgun thats difficult to control and, and should therefore produce SMG/PCC's in hot rounds like 10mm, .45 Super, .460 Rowland, .40 Super, 9x25 Dillon.. heck even 9x23mm and .357 SIG etc options would be sweet. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. I was hoping the delayed blow back would be less gassy but it is not. map. The mags are the issue to me. The long-awaited LWRC SMG-45 arrived this month in a Gun Shop near you. As far as what this articled gun offers to me? My brother who is an Engineer also fired it- and no issues with zeroing in at 25 yards using a Holosun HS510C sight. Lwrc never responded to my design flaw email or at least not yet. https://www.lwrci.com/assets/images/5563.jpg, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOxjWxpi5bg. Payment Options: *. But GT did find ( 5 ) with the same flaw . Shit hasn't changed in 15 years. LWRC SMG .45 (This magazine is the factory OEM magazine for the LWRC SMG 45) Gideon Shadow .45 Tommy Built Tactical .45 Other applications where they use the HK UMP style 45 magazine Specifications: Capacity: 25-Rounds Fits: All HK UMP45 firearms Compliance: Each magazine counts as 3 US-made complaint parts Made 100% in the USA Steel feed lips Hits hard and consistent. As you can see, the lower is marked MULTI-CAL, and LWRC says that conversions to at least 919 and possibly other calibers are on the way. If so, I would love one. I read his review. Takes range time from my 1911's and other handguns with similar portability and much better accuracy at distance. It has V1 mags and I bought one USA 25rd and one 15rd USA from HKParts as the both HKParts and the LWRC user manual say that's the source for original magazines. Read up all about the magazine issues here and did another field trial today as well as zeroing my SRO to it. There are plenty of awesome PCC options on the market at 2/3 1/3 of that. Now I ordered a Macon Armory gas upper. LWRCSMG-45. Sure. Hell, it could have been a lengthy internal discussion, it could have been the head of the company likes 45 so much and scoffed at everyone else. Street price is probably $2400-$2500 and will fall over the next couple of years to sub-$2000. Can we get it from LWRC for the current owner? So I guess the accuracy issue is not the bolt. This has never been shot. Within the next few weeks, more will show up at local dealers. Plus the extra range capability and velocity are pluses. They've apparently fixed my gun. I'm waiting for one and hope that they eventually produce an upper in 10 mm and 9mm and even 40 SWif this works as good as I believe its potential, I believe that this PCC will have a bright future! Weight is 5.9 pounds. Upload or insert images from URL. Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s. Is it possible you have the barrel screw too loose, or too tight? That indicates LWRC modified the magazine to work with the SMG-45. Immediately bought 5 extra mags from HKparts.net (US made - they worked well and much less than German HK). For $3k I can pick up a Vector in both .45 ACP AND 10mm. Im just concerned about the accuracy. let me add though regardless of your dominant hand everyone that I have let get familiar with it has really been blown away by how intuitive running it has been. All the groups were consistent and tight and I have NO stove pipe feed malfunctions with ANY of the magazines. Will update when I get my Deadair Wolfman. Cosmohumanist Friends, a major seller in AZ appears to be liquidating 10.5" DIs for a huge discount. Typical LWRC quality. I have a UMP clone built off an Omega Shadow upper that runs great. Retail is $2995. Rapid Fire. Both mags worked flawlessly, but accuracy at about 20 yards was rubbish. It's a great gun but we prefer the B&T APC45 to the LWRC SMG. ICA5U5B16. Has MOS and suppressor Height Sights, Desert Tech MDRx vs CZ Bren 2 Carbine vs LWRC IC-A5, FS/FT Mk18 (BLK) with upgrades $2k weekend only, FS Springfield Lightweight compact Range Officer, FS Zro Delta AR-15 (over 1400 value) PRICE REDUCED, FT John Wick Budget Blaster /glock 34 gen 5 MOS, FS/FT 16 Springfield Saint - upgraded rail & gas block Vltor, ADM, FS Sig P320 XFull with Romeo1Pro *REDUCED*, FS AR-15 with Monstrum Spectre LPVO - Rare Left Eye Dominant Config, FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS AR PISTOL 10.5" BARREL - $369.99 CASH. I dont blame them either, 45 ACP is still a popular cartridge, whether you like it or not, and with all these new SMGs there arent any in 45 other than the APC as I recall (unless you count the UMP 45 recreations). After tuning the mags haven't had a jam or failure to feed in months. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Solid feel but distributed well across the entire platform. The tension should be just enough for the barrel to flex in-and-out (forward and backward) but just barely. Update on my Non-V1 Magazine. Only trade would be a Vudoo sporter style .22 in great shape. Training especially Medical. It is as gassy as my AR45 build. I have an interesting range report for you. ATF Proposed Rule 2021-R08 has been signed by the Attorney General and published in the Federal Register although we only have a vague date of "August 2022" for finalization. You can post now and register later. Trick #4: To fully insert bolt assembly, push the little round spring-loaded thingie at the back of the bolt (this little gem caused me about an hour of extra work to figure out how to get the bolt assembly fully inserted into the upper.)
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